Monday, August 22, 2005

Redemption Song - 050822

Redemption Song - movies, music & thoughts - 050822

Hide and Seek | Robert De Niro | Tool | No Quarter | Led Zepplin | The Song Remains the Same | Houses of the Holy

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MOVIES --


- TONIGHT -


Hide and Seek (2005)
In this psychological thriller, widowed father David Callaway (Robert De Niro) desperately tries to prevent his disturbed, 9-year old daughter (Dakota Fanning) from slipping into insanity. Concerned by her inability to cope with her mother's death, David discovers that his little girl is spending time with a creepy imaginary friend -- who has vengeance on his mind. Famke Janssen, Elisabeth Shue, Dylan Baker and Amy Irving costar.
Starring: Robert De Niro, Dakota Fanning, Famke Janssen, Elisabeth Shue, Amy Irving, Dylan Baker, Melissa Leo, Robert John Burke, Molly Grant Kallins, David Chandler, Stewart Summers, Jake Dylan Baumer
Director: John Polson


above quote[s] from netflix


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MUSIC --

- NO QUARTER -


listening to Tool's version of No Quarter [album = Salival]
- one of my all time favorite Led Zepplin tunes...


toolband.com

google "Led Zepplin"


see also: 050718: The Song Remains the Same | Houses of the Holy

<<< more on "No Quarter" below in THOUGHTS >>>


lyrics of No Quarter [Led Zepplin] -

Close the doors, put out the light
You know they won't be home tonight
The snow falls hard and don't you know
The winds of Thor are blowing cold
They're wearing steel that's bright and true
They carry news that must get through
They choose the path where no-one goes
They hold no quarter,
They ask no quarter.
Walking side by side with death
The devil mocks their every step
The snow drives back the foot that's slow
The dogs of doom are howling low
They carry news that must get through
To build a dream for me and you
They choose the path where no one goes
They hold no quarter, they ask no quarter.


lyrics of No Quarter [Tool] -

Lock all the doors, kill the lights.
No one's coming home tonight.
The sun beats down and don't you know?
All our lives are growing cold, oh...
They bring news that must get through.
To build a dream for me and you, oh.

Locked in a place where no one goes.

They ask no quarter
They have no quarter.

Lock the door, kill the light
No one's coming home tonight

It's getting colder [7x]
Locked in a place where no one goes.

Lock the door, kill the light
No one's coming home tonight

They bring news that must get through.
Dying peace in me and you

Locked in a place where no one goes.

We have no quarter
We have no quarter
We ask no quarter


see also: 050718: The Song Remains the Same | Houses of the Holy


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THOUGHTS --


what does "No Quarter" mean ???


- from worldwidewords.org -


GIVE NO QUARTER

[Q] From Carl: “Recently, I had a person ask me the etymology of to give no quarter. What bothers me is that I can find no rationale for connecting quarter in its sense of one-fourth to its meanings of living space or accepting the surrender of a vanquished enemy.”

[A] The idiom is certainly odd. So far as I can understand, it’s the result of a series of shifts in meaning and the growth of various idioms which took place in the period from late medieval times into the seventeenth century.

In the fourteenth century, quarter added to its basic meaning of the fourth part of something by taking on a sense of one of the four principal divisions of the horizon or the points of the compass. It then seems to have transferred to one of the four quarters of a city, in particular one occupied by a specific group (as we might still today speak of “the French quarter”), not literally meaning one fourth of the area, but a rough direction based on the four main compass points. The same meaning was applied to one section of an army camp. So quarter came to have attached to it the idea of an area in which one lived, and further shifts of meaning seem to have taken place that lead to quarters (in the plural) for one’s living accommodation, especially in military contexts.

There seem to have been one or two further stages. By the 1590s an idiom to keep good quarters with had grown up, meaning to have good relations with a person, presumably a reference to the need to stay on good terms with those living with or around you—Shakespeare used it in The Comedy of Errors in 1590 in a way that showed he was having fun with an expression already well known. So to give no quarter might have meant “don’t show any friendliness to the enemy”. It’s possible also that to give quarters could refer to the need to provide prisoners with a place to stay, so that to give no quarter was a figurative way of saying “take no prisoners”.

It’s all a bit obscure from this distance, but the essence of it seems to be there.


- from songfacts.com -


No Quarter by Led Zeppelin

Album: Houses Of The Holy
Date: 1973
Lyrics: View Lyrics
Led Zeppelin
Ringtones   Listen/Buy @ Amazon  Sheet Music

Songfacts:  You can leave comments about the song at the bottom of the page.
"No quarter" is a pirate phrase meaning "no mercy." It could also refer to the US Revolutionary War when Great Britain enforced a policy requiring colonial Americans to house British soldiers and offer them food and a bed during the cold of winter. If this policy was refused to a British soldier, this "No Quarter" policy allowed the British soldier to invoke severe punishment (death, sometimes) on the American who refused him. This was only one of the many ways in which Britain attempted to legitimize their treatment of Americans in their effort to interrupt their recapture of the colonies. (thanks, Andy - Lubbock, TX)
The title was used as the name of the Page and Plant reunion album in 1995.
This was a showcase song for bass player John Paul Jones during Led Zeppelin's live shows.
The version that made it to the album evolved out of a faster version they recorded earlier at Headley Grange, an old mansion in a remote part of England where they wrote and recorded many of their songs, including "Stairway To Heaven."
Tool covered this on their 2000 album Salival.
There is at least one Led Zeppelin tribute band called "No Quarter." (thanks, John - San Antonio, TX)
Sublime borrowed a riff from this in their song "Smoke Two Joints." The short-lasting similarities can be heard at 1:07 in "No Quarter" and at 1:09 in "Smoke Two Joints." (thanks, Matt - San Antonio, TX)

Comments:
That song is so eerie, I agree it is best heard in the dark. I love thinking about it from a Lord of the Rings point of view, thanks Steve for bringing that up. One of the best Zep songs!
- Jeanette, Irvine, CA
Great song - shows how underrated JPJ really is, shame that. And The DVD which was just a page and plant reunion, has the title of JPJ showcase song - No Quarter - JPJ wasnt even asked.
- Dale, Northamptonshire, England
This song is juat a really, really good song, and is my favourite Led Zeppelin song, after 10 Years Gone. Achilles Last Stand is my third favourite. and then ther's Kashmir, Over the Hills And Far Away,and of course Stairway to Heaven, Houses of The Holy, and very many more.
- Ashley, Moncton, Canada
the live version of this song on the song remains the same soundtrack is hauntingly beautiful. the guitar/drum duet is pure magic.
- paige, jb, AR
the live version... on "the song remains the same" was better, Plant didnt wail in the lyrics 'they choose the path were no one goes', and it makes it sound so eerie.. its great...
- nick, baton rouge, LA
and watch his facial expressions.. and his eyes.. hes really looking for something out there..
- nick, baton rouge, LA
the eerie sound i was created by using a leslie speaker. the speaker rotated inside of itself which creates the sound. used commonly with B3 hammond organs. i myself have one.
- J.T., Los Angeles, CA
the singing in this song sounds alot like " In The Light"
- Ben, ridgecrest, CA
This is one of the few songs that does bring me to tears on occasion, especially when i'm really down. The music itself is very emotional and beautifully crafted. Then again, it's probably just the drugs... (please, don't hold that against me. Spare your remarks for someone else)
- Gerald, Olathe, KS
The band Maktub has done a wonderful remake of No Quarter. Yvette, Hamtramck, MI
- Yvette, Hamtramck, MI
If you listen closely at the beginning you can hear fans cheering in the background
- Brian, Corpus Christi, TX
The best version of this is from the Earls Court concerts 1975, Jonesy had played this beautifully. This one should have be included on the DVD set released a few years back. It shops how much Zeppelin had griown to that point. This is even better than the one on either The Song Remains the Same soundtrack or unledded.
- William, Evington, VA
in reference to the earlier comment about studio covers, do u realize led zepplin did the same thing? when the levee breaks was originally done by Memphis Minnie. So dont go hating on Tool because they want to pay tribute to led zepplin by remaking one of their songs. As for puff daddy..... well i couldnt defend him with a straight face :)
- Aubrey, Raleigh, NC
There is definately a tribute band playing in Baton Rouge and the Gulf coast called "ZOSO". They are very good. The guys even look like Zep.
- Cory, Hammond, LA
My favourite song by my favourite band
- Liam, Campbell River, Canada
yep.. this song rocks. Studio is awesome but check the live version its like 10x better.
- Dave, Winnipeg, Canada
This song Amazing, What more can I say.
- Tom, Garstang, England
i composed a 20 minute version of this song by adding live performances by zep in seattle 77 and knebworth 79, and the solo from TSRTS, i have it in mp3, if any of you like this song enough email me at hellsnavy16@hotmail.com and i'll send it to you... to me this song is about warfare... i made a video with pretty gruesome stuff and this song in the background, this is one of my 3 all time fav. songs with dazed and confused and achilles last stand... who else is as innovative as led zep? :D best band ever, for sure
- Bruno, Lima, Peru
i like the version off of the "unledded" dvd. it's an acoustic one with jimmy playing a twelve string and robert singing. they're sitting by a river or something. it's really awesome....
- Ben, Adelaide, Australia
steve, that is exactly what i thought when i first saw the lyrics. great song, a little eerie, but that just adds to it.
- Spencer, South Kingstown, RI
All i have to say is if anybody can get a copy of "Legend of Eight Samurai" and you play it with led Zeppelin houses of the holy until the album stops the two actualy match up pretty much. and the scene that comes on right as No Quarter comes on matched up perfectly, a little too perfectly, but if anone can get it, its an old kung fu movie, than do it. Peace
- Travis J. Basso, Hillsdale, NJ
I agree with what you say Steve... Robert play was very influenced by the lord of the rings. this is also shown in other songs including stairway to heaven, battle of evermore, etc
- Ivan, Vancouver, Canada
Great song! I absoultly love it!
- Don, Philadelphia, PA
I know this is probably wrong, but it seems this song is about Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimili going through the path of the dead. If you look at it like that, it makes sence. "This is the path were no one goes" - no one goes down that path, because they will be killed. "They show No Quarter" - the undead don't show any mercy to those who are not the heir of the king of Gondor. Just my thoughts
- Steve, Wallingford, PA
They say "We will show you no quarter" in the movie The Last Samurai Of course that movie is not quite near the level of Zeppelin lol
- Andrew, Springfield, MO
Beautiful. And although when I was younger I liked Tool a bit I still will not support studio covers of such classics as it is too easy to butcher. Organ is the biggest part of this song and I know Tool doesn't have an organ player. I have no problem with bands covering Zeppelin in their concerts as long as they pay tribute and play it well, but studio is different.
- Sam, Nanaimo, Canada
Yeah for sure - its a great song. For anyone who's interested, its got more of those references to norse (viking) mythology which Plant was really into. "the wind of thor blowing cold" is an example of it, but they do it a lot more in the Immigrant Song with lyrics like "Valhalla I am coming" and "we come from the land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow" And YES! i agree with everyone who reckons the tool version was great!
- Andrew, Brisbane, Australia
david, i tried the haunted cavern thing on my computer with my logitech 5.1s and soundblaster audegy 2, and it was sick. I had never used the EAX before becuase I thought it was crap. and yes, no quarter is the only song that sounds good with it.
- ben, boston, MA
I feel so honored: I have the klipsch ProMedia 5.1 seires speakers (http://www.klipsch.com/media/Products/398_large.jpg) and the Soundblaster Audigy Platinum soundcard. Cranking No Quarter under the "Haunted Cavern" environmental setting really makes what you find creepy into scary-as-all-hell. None of the other 1370 songs in my playlist can achieve this. If you have the means, I highly suggest trying this.
- David, Greensboro, NC
This is another one of my Zep favourites. Just like you guys say it have this haunting and mysterious sound which i LOVE! This song and its sound do in someway remind me of Kashmir, it's probably because of it's mysterious sound.
- Jens, Link?ping, Sweden
another classic zeppelin song! eerie and mysterious!
- paul, perth, Australia
Oh ya tool rules too. Man my top two favourite bands are TOOl and LED ZEPPELIN. I'd like to see a combination of the two ! Hahah. lol
- Heron, Toronto, Canada
This is a very Trippy song and i love it i think it is spirtual and roberts sounds so sexy in this laterz
- Brianna, layton, UT
Along the same lines as The Immigrant Song, but nice and mellow with awesome keyboards by Jones.
- Julian, Philadelphia, PA
A beautiful song, such haunting music and lyrics. Gives you an eerie feeling especially when you listen to it in the dark. And you are right Patrick, Tool did a very good job covering this song.
- Brian, Paoli, IN
Probably the most underated Led Zeppelin song. Covered by Tool recently(Check this version out...It is hot! ; ) )
- Patrick, Durham, NC
This, kashmir, and Achilles Last Stand are my favorite led zep songs. Tool covering this is really fitting since this song has a more prog feel to it. I recomend Tool to any one who likes LZ's more complex stuff.
- Ian, New York, NY


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